Roost Vans Thoughts on Showers in Vans

When building a camper van, one of the most debated features is whether or not to include a shower. At Roost Vans, we’ve taken a clear stance: we don’t install interior showers. Why? Because the challenges far outweigh the benefits, especially when considering the functionality, cost, space constraints and practicality of camper vans. Here’s an in-depth exploration of our reasoning and the alternative solutions we recommend.

 

Why We Don’t Do Showers in Vans

 

1. Space Constraints

Camper vans are all about maximizing a small footprint. Installing a shower requires significant infrastructure:

  • Dedicated Space: An enclosed shower takes up valuable real estate, reducing the usable living or storage space.
  • Visual Impact: A vertical shower wall interrupts the line of sight from one corner of the van to the other, making the space feel smaller and more cramped. At Roost Vans, we prioritize an open, uninterrupted design to maintain the feeling of spaciousness.

2. Minimal Usage

Through years of experience, we’ve found that showers in vans are rarely used. Most van owners rely on alternatives:

  • Campgrounds and State Parks: These locations often have full-size, comfortable endlessly hot shower facilities.
  • Natural Water Sources: Lakes, rivers, and beaches are popular for quick rinses and are very enjoyable.
  • Exterior Showers: More on this below, but outdoor setups often meet the need without the drawbacks of an interior shower.

3. Infrastructure Challenges

Adding a shower means introducing complex systems that are often impractical in a van:

  • Hot Water Systems: Heating water requires a substantial power source or propane setup, taking up space and adding weight. A typical 5-gallon hot water heater is bulky and only provides a short, underwhelming shower experience.
  • Drainage and Graywater Tanks: A shower doesn’t necessitate a gray water system to collect runoff, but it usually is highly desired. This adds more complexity, cost, and maintenance.
  • Moisture Control: Interior showers increase the risk of condensation, mold, and water damage, which are major concerns in small, enclosed spaces.

4. Cost vs. Value

The cost of adding an interior shower can easily run into the many many thousands, yet its functionality often falls short of expectations. At Roost Vans, we believe in investing those resources into features that provide greater long-term value, such as high-quality cabinetry, bed systems, or advanced power setups.

 

The Roost Vans Alternative: Exterior Showers

While we don’t install interior showers, we do offer a modular and practical solution: an exterior shower system.

How It Works

  • Water Tank: A 20-gallon over-the-wheel-well water tank that also supplies water to the interior sink.
  • Spray Port: The tank includes a spray port for versatile use—rinse off surfboards, bikes, pets, or muddy boots.
  • Hot Water Setup: For a full shower experience, we add an inline propane-powered hot water heater with showerhead and curtain for privacy.

Benefits of the Exterior Shower

  1. Compact and Flexible: Takes up minimal space inside the van while offering maximum functionality.
  2. Multi-Use System: The water tank serves both the sink and shower, maximizing utility.
  3. Efficient: Uses propane and water sparingly, making it ideal for off-grid camping.
  4. Practical Application: Perfect for rinsing off after a day at the beach, mountain biking, or other outdoor activities.

 

When an Interior Shower Might Make Sense

If you’re absolutely set on an interior shower, we recommend considering the Tetravan Folding Shower System. It’s one of the most innovative designs we’ve seen, offering a compact, fold-away solution. However, even with this option, there are still challenges with heating water and storing sufficient water for a satisfying shower.

 

Our Philosophy on Camper Vans

At Roost Vans, our design philosophy is rooted in practicality and efficiency. Camper vans are not RVs, and we aim to create functional, adventure-ready spaces that prioritize usability over unnecessary features. By omitting interior showers, we ensure that our vans:

  • Remain open and spacious.
  • Avoid unnecessary complexity and maintenance issues.
  • Deliver better value for your investment.

 

The Final Word on Showers in Vans

While the idea of a shower in your van may sound appealing, the reality often proves less glamorous. Instead of dedicating space and budget to an underused feature, consider the versatility and practicality of an exterior shower system. It’s efficient, flexible, and perfectly suited to the van life lifestyle.

Ready to build your dream van? Contact us or visit roostvans.com to learn more about our designs and solutions tailored to your adventure.

Sprinter vs. Transit: Choosing the Ideal Rig

Are you on the hunt for the perfect adventure vehicle to suit your lifestyle? Whether you’re a weekend warrior hitting the road for a few days or a family planning month-long excursions – the choice between a Sprinter and a Transit can significantly impact your travel experiences. As someone deeply entrenched in the world of van life, I’ve spent countless hours comparing these two iconic platforms. I’ve considered everything from engine performance and vehicle options to build costs and layouts. So, let’s dive into the nitty-gritty and explore which rig might be the best fit for you.

Size Matters: Maneuverability vs. Interior Space

The first consideration when choosing between a Sprinter and a Transit is often size. Both models offer various wheelbase options: from the compact 144 to the extended 170. While the larger wheelbase provides ample interior space for customization, it comes at the cost of maneuverability. Parking a 170-wheelbase Sprinter or a 148-extended Transit can be a challenge in tight spaces, even with the better maneuverability of the 148-ext. Whereas the shorter variants offer more agility on the road.

If you’re a solo traveler or a couple seeking a nimble daily driver, the Sprinter 144 or Transit 148 might be the way to go. However, for families or those requiring extra living space, the Sprinter 170 or Transit 148 extended body provides room to stretch out without sacrificing comfort. So, regarding size, both Sprinter and Transit are a close call.

Be aware, the 144 Sprinter interior is slightly shorter than the 148 Transit, and the 170 interior is slightly longer than the 148 extended Transit.

Engine Performance: Diesel vs. EcoBoost

When it comes to engine performance, the Sprinter’s diesel engine and the Transit’s EcoBoost offer distinct advantages. While the Sprinter diesel engines provide robust torque ideal for heavy towing, they can feel sluggish during acceleration. On the other hand, the Transit EcoBoost engine delivers responsive power, making highway passing a breeze.

In terms of fuel efficiency, both models fare relatively well. Mileage is affected by many factors of course. Ironically, we’ve found build weight to have the most minimal effect, with AWD/4WD and driving habits being next, and exterior accouterments and add ons that increase wind resistance having the most effect. In general, maintenance costs tend to tip the scale in favor of the Transit, with lower servicing expenses compared to the pricier Sprinter repairs and maintenance.

Drivetrain Options: All-Wheel Drive vs. Two-Wheel Drive

Another crucial factor to consider is drivetrain options. The Sprinter offers rear-wheel-drive and AWD/four-wheel-drive variants, while the Transit provides two-wheel drive, all-wheel drive, and the off-road-oriented Trail package.

For winter adventurers or off-road enthusiasts, the Sprinter’s selectable four-wheel-drive option offers added traction and stability when needed.

However, it still comes with a fuel economy penalty. Alternatively, the Transit’s all-wheel-drive system provides a confidence-inspiring grip without compromising as much fuel efficiency, making it an attractive choice for versatile travelers. We’ve been finding however that the Trail variant has an additional mileage hit over the AWD Transit.

Build Costs: Budgeting for Your Dream Rig

Lastly, let’s talk about build costs. While both platforms offer endless customization possibilities, the Sprinter tends to be more budget-friendly in terms of labor and materials. The Transit’s slightly more complex design and construction result in higher build costs, which may be a factor for your budget.

In this category, Sprinter takes the lead.

Conclusion: Finding Your Perfect Adventure Companion

In the end, choosing between a Sprinter and a Transit boils down to your individual needs and preferences. If you prioritize interior space and off-road capabilities, the Sprinter might be the ideal companion for your epic journeys. However, if maneuverability, engine responsiveness, and budget-friendly maintenance are your top priorities, the Transit could be your ticket to van life bliss.

No matter which platform you choose, embarking on the van life adventure opens up a world of possibilities, from remote wilderness camping to urban exploration. So, weigh your options carefully, test drive both models if possible, and embark on the journey of a lifetime with your dream rig by your side. Happy travels!

When ordering your van however, a couple of things to consider:

  • Order a van with factory swivel seats if possible.
  • Fixed windows in the driver side sliding door and rear doors is a good option as the van builder can add vented windows elsewhere.
  • Sprinter factory roof rails from the factory allow for installation of roof racks and solar panels.

Ordering Your Adventure Van: What to Consider

Ordering a custom rig for your adventure lifestyle is an exciting process, but it requires careful consideration. Let’s dive into what you should think about before placing your order.

Vehicle Options

When choosing between Sprinter and Transit, consider the available options that are practical for a van build. Sprinter offers 144 and 170 wheelbases, both in high roof. There is also a 170 extended version, although rare.Although offered, we have found that the Sprinter Mid roof does not have enough clearance for a campervan build.

Transit offers a 148 wheelbase available in regular length in a high and mid roof configuration, or extended length in a high roof config. Decide which configuration best suits your needs. Both of these rigs interior spaces are very close for general building considerations.

Roof Height

Opting for a high roof provides more headroom and space for customization. Transit’s high roof offers slightly more headroom than Sprinters, providing additional comfort and versatility. While the Transit’s mid roof option is often just fine for people about 5’9” or less.

Layout Considerations

Think about how you plan to use the space inside your rig. Consider factors like the number of passengers, a second row seat, sleeping and storage needs, and desired amenities. Visualize your ideal layout to ensure it meets your requirements. Be aware that a 2nd row bench seat if not needed, can have a big and often detrimental impact on your layout. Consider this carefully if it us not going to be used most of the time.

Drivetrain Options

Evaluate the available drivetrain options, such as rear-wheel drive, all-wheel drive, or four-wheel drive. Choose based on your intended usage, considering factors like terrain, weather conditions, and driving preferences. Oftentimes customers are quite satisfied with the improved mileage of a 2wd option and utilizing winter tires, bringing chains, or swapping out for studded tires in the winter months.

Engine Performance

Assess the engine options and their performance characteristics. Consider factors like power, torque, fuel efficiency, and responsiveness. Determine which engine aligns best with your driving style and performance expectations. We’ve found the performance of the Ford 3.5L EcoBoost has done quite well for our van building needs with plenty of power without the need for DEF in needed for diesel engines.

Budget Considerations

Establish a budget for your custom rig, considering both the initial purchase price and potential long-term costs, as well as upfitting costs. Account for factors like maintenance, repairs, fuel economy, and insurance premiums. Ensure your budget aligns with your financial goals and priorities. And most of all, leave enough budget to build out your vehicle. A common technique is to finance the vehicle while leaving cash reserves for the build.

Customization Potential

Research the customization options available for your chosen platform. Consider factors like interior layout, exterior features, upgrades, and accessories. Explore aftermarket options and modifications to personalize your rig to your preferences.

Resale Value

Consider the potential resale value of your custom rig. Choose options and features that appeal to a broad audience to maximize resale potential down the line. Opt for upgrades and modifications that enhance value without overcapitalizing.

Test Drive

Before placing your order, schedule test drives of both Sprinter and Transit models to experience their handling, comfort, and performance firsthand. Pay attention to details like driving dynamics, ergonomics, and overall feel to make an informed decision. This is such a subjective call, but we’ve found that the Sprinter platform differences in 2wd vs 4wd drive quite different out of the box, while the Transit 2wd and AWD are almost identical.

Consultation

If you’re unsure about any aspect of the ordering process, seek guidance from experienced professionals or fellow enthusiasts. Consult with van builders, dealerships, or online communities to gather insights and advice.

In conclusion, ordering a custom rig requires careful consideration of various factors, including vehicle options, roof height, layout, drivetrain, budget, customization potential, resale value, test drives, and consultations. By thoroughly evaluating these aspects, you can ensure that your adventure rig meets your needs and preferences, providing you with countless memorable journeys on the open road.

Roost Vans Webinars: Your New Resource for DIY Van Builders and Enthusiasts

Roost Vans is excited to announce the launch of our monthly webinars, designed to support both DIY van builders and those considering van conversion. Whether you’re looking to convert a van yourself, hire a professional, or take a hybrid approach, our webinars will provide valuable insights and guidance.

Kicking Off the Webinars

In September 2024, we hosted our first webinar, “Your Guide to Choosing the Right Van,” and the response was overwhelmingly positive. Participants learned the key differences between popular van models—Transit, Sprinter, and Promaster—and explored important considerations such as new vs. used vans, wheelbase options, as well as specific pitfalls to avoid. The interactive Q&A session allowed participants to ask specific questions, making the session both informative and engaging.

What’s Next?

Our second webinar is set for October 24, 2024, and will focus on “The Build Process: What to Expect and How to Plan for Success.” This session will cover critical aspects of van building, from layout planning and material selection to understanding which parts of the project can be DIY and which may require professional help. Like our first webinar, we will kick the discussion off with a 20–30-minute presentation to get the ball rolling, but the “meat” of these webinars is the Q&A, where we engage directly with your questions.  For this reason, we offer limited, advance registration.  Attendance is free, but we encourage advanced registration to ensure your spot!

These webinars are designed to break down complex topics into clear, actionable steps, so you can make informed decisions for your van build. Whether you’re just starting or are deep into the process, this upcoming session is a must-attend for anyone serious about van conversions.

More Than Just Webinars: Building a Community

Our webinars are only the beginning. At Roost Vans, we’re building a community. Our long-term plans include a community area on our website, featuring forums where DIY builders and van enthusiasts can connect, share ideas, experiences, and ask questions. Our goal is to build a reliable resource hub for DIY van builders and those exploring the van life, with a focus on peer-to-peer support as well as offering expert guidance.

In addition to the forums, we’re planning to roll out more video content and detailed tutorials, so you’ll have access to a wealth of information to help you at every stage of your build.

Why Roost Vans?

At Roost Vans, we’ve made it our mission to simplify the van conversion process, and to put your dreams within reach. Our modular products are designed for flexibility, making them ideal for DIYers and professionals alike. By attending our webinars and engaging with our upcoming community resources, you’ll not only gain valuable knowledge but also have the support of a community that shares your passion for van life.

Join Us on October 24th

We invite you to join us for our October 24th webinar, or at any point in the future.  This is the perfect opportunity to take your van conversion knowledge to the next level. Register now to reserve your spot and stay tuned as we continue to build a vibrant, supportive community for van enthusiasts everywhere.

Register Here

4 Van Conversion Ideas for Different Lifestyles

We’ve gone over Buying a van on a budget, choosing the right van, and the pros and cons of hiring vs doing it yourself in our previous blogs… Now let’s explore some van conversion ideas for the inside of your van.

We recommend every person converting their van, to start off their build with our version of a rails track system, called the Smooth Rail Mounting System. Our mounting systems are custom-engineered to attach to the interior ceiling ribs and walls of your vehicle’s framework. Once installed, they provide a safe, secure, and versatile attachment point for all your components and accessories. Our products can be installed, removed, or re-installed with a hex head wrench and a screwdriver, in just a few minutes.

The weekender

These are some ideas for people who want to be able to hit the road on short notice. Perhaps you aren’t living out of your van full-time, but you use it for weekend trips or summer vacations. Your focus is probably going to be on having the essentials, such as a van bed, a kitchenette, and a place to store your belongings.

Flip-Up Bed.
Roost Vans has you covered with our Fu-kit bed system. This bed comes in a 1, 2, or 3-panels. If you plan on bringing gear such as a bicycle, we recommend adding on our Flip-up bed kit. This allows you to flip up your bed in either the front or rear, or both.. allowing you to access your storage more easily.

Compact Kitchen.
For a simple kitchen and dining solution, we suggest adding a Drivers-side Kitchen Cabinet or Passenger-side Kitchen Cabinet. These solutions are compact and easy to install. You can even add on a sink or stove and even a fridge, such as an isotherm drawer-style fridge.

Dining.
For dining solutions, we recommend looking into Lagun USA. They have some great options for van table systems. Their table mount can fold and be stored in a compact space.

Digital nomad

If you’re a digital nomad, you need a van that can accommodate your work and lifestyle needs. This type of van conversion typically includes a desk, a comfortable workspace, and plenty of storage for your electronics and other belongings.

Desk or Dinette.
If you are seeking a small desk option, we propose using the Lagun USA table solution and also adding a swivel seat mount to your driver or passenger seat. That way you can turn your chair around for an easy workspace solution. Or you could build a more elaborate workspace by building a dinette at the back of the van, that would triple as a sleeping, working, and dining solution.

Lockable Cabinetry.
Installing upper cabinetry is going to be a great way to store all your electronics. Roost Vans upper cabinet for Sprinter and Transit van conversions feature a lockable door, and can be installed as a stand-alone unit, or in series to form a bank of cabinets for your van storage needs. If you prefer lower storage, we suggest our Drawer-style cabinet, which also features a hidden kickplate drawer for some of your more valuable possessions.

Family van

If you’re traveling with a family, you’ll need a van that has enough space for everyone to be comfortable. This type of van conversion typically includes a sleeping area for the kids, a dining area, and some sort of bathroom system.

Bunk bed.
We recommend creating a bunk bed by adding a Strap-Up van bed above your regular van bed. This will allow you to sleep up to 5 people comfortably in your van. When you are no longer sleeping, you can raise your Stap-Up bed to the ceiling so it’s out of the way for the day.

Loo Bench.
Our Loo Bench is the perfect van toilet for families that are traveling with young kids, who sometimes can’t hold it in. In our experience, most van owners will opt for an alternative solution to dump their “unwanted cargo” whenever possible (rest stops, stores, campgrounds, a nice tree, or a secluded spot in the woods). It was with that in mind that we developed a solution for those times when the alternatives is not available (a midnight pee, toddler emergency, or moment when privacy outside the van is simply not feasible). The included Easy Go Toilet is easy to clean, chemical-free, and does not require electrical or water hookups. It is useable inside the cabinet, but can also be easily removed for cleaning, and/or use outside of the van. Quite simply, it is there when you need it, and invisible when you don’t. The cabinet itself is custom-formed to the toilet, and provides functional, and discreet storage, as well as space for toilet paper and other toiletries and cleaning supplies. The spring loaded, snug fit lid of the cabinet, in conjunction with the tight seal of the Easy Go Toilet minimizes unwanted odors until the contents can be dumped.

Outdoor shower.
Having a shower in your van is a great way to stay clean and refreshed while you’re on the road. But if you don’t have the space or budget for an indoor shower, an outdoor shower is a great option. We suggest purchasing a portable water heater and our Outdoor Shower Curtain that strings across both backdoors, launching soon on our website.

Off-road

If you’re planning on doing some serious off-roading, you’ll need a van that can handle the terrain. This type of van conversion typically includes features like a raised suspension, off-road tires, and cabinetry that will keep your items secure.

Suspension.
We recommend upgrading the suspension and adding all-terrain tires. The stock suspension on most vans is not designed for off-roading. If you plan on doing any serious off-roading, you will need to upgrade the suspension to something more capable. This will improve the van’s handling and give you more clearance to avoid obstacles… and adding all-terrain tires provide better traction on loose surfaces, such as sand, gravel, and mud.

Roof Rack.
Off-roading usually means having a lot of extra gear. One of the best storage solutions for gear is adding a Roof Rack. A roof rack is a great way to carry extra gear, such as camping equipment, tools, and water.

Solar panel.
Probably the most important piece of advice would be to iInstall a solar power system. A solar power system will allow you to run your appliances and electronics off-grid. This is essential if you plan on spending extended periods of time in the wilderness.

Strap-Up Bed.
Lastly, we suggest adding a Strap-Up Bed. This bed system allows you to adjust the angle of your bed depending on where you are parked. If you are parked at an angle, you can adjust your bed to be completely flat.

 

With a little planning and effort, you can build the perfect van conversion for your lifestyle. So what are you waiting for? Start planning your build today! And be sure and reach out to us if you have any questions. You can check out all our van products here!